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Geoff G's avatar

I'm not sure how it fits in with your piece, but one thing I noticed about Evangelicals is that they are, by their own reckoning, extremely oppressed. Constantly on the brink of having their religion ripped from their praying hands, by secularists, humanists, progressives, LGBTQ+ people, and who knows how many others. That's an awful lot of enemies! How have they managed to somehow hang together in this unceasing onslaught?

Someone just tuning in today might think that this persecution of decent people is a recent development, perhaps a reaction to the scourge of trans kids acting in school plays, or gay couples firebombing bakers who won't supply cakes for their "weddings." But the entire 20th Century, as well as the 21st so far, is an endless stream of terror directed at Believers. The new terrors make the old ones seem so tame, that the life-or-death battles against Darwinism, where our kids were this close to becoming Communists indoctrinated to reject their parents and serve a Godless State, are now seen as "the good old days" and a time we need to get back to if America is to be "great again."

Other denominations, like Methodists (yea!), Presby's and Episcopals, don't do this. For all their faults, they believe that when Jesus speaks of the "least of these" he's not talking about them, but the people they should serve. They are more likely to be at the forefront of movements for social justice than leading a reactionary movement to oppose them.

I really can't figure what makes them tick, but personally, I'm extremely grateful not to live in their world.

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Terry Mc Kenna's avatar

As an older person now, I look back at Plato et al as something that makes little sense at all now - I read this material extensively from 1968-77. The notion of objects as ideas more or less given life or presence is the wrong approach in the face of the modern approach of data. I write this as an excellent student.. but now it just seems bonkers. For me, reality may be real but the things in the world are constantly changing (in terms of what we know about them). Not important for objects like a table, but a real problem when it comes to cellular biology. This endless change or adjustment even goes to social norms. I will share a discussion in 1989 or so among life insurance examiners concerning estates and such. The issue of gay men came up and at the time we as a group did not think that gay men formed families. It was not a mean spirited discussion but we were simply not aware of it. But now we know gay men and women do form families etc.

So nothing is fixed. The decent person evolves.

Re the Evangelicals, well contemporary life must seem an assault on all they believe. Same with white folks in rural America. But we all need to learn to adjust.

Sadly the bible far from being inerrrant is not even a single work. It is a collection of tales and letters curated by a bunch of old men and reinterpreted as a single set of ideas.

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